Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Ridley wants to stop Ivysaur’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Rapid Jab Finisher with Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), Up Smash (12f), and OOS Bair (13f), then force Ivysaur back outside Rapid Jab and Forward Air to keep stage control.
In Ridley vs Ivysaur, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Ivysaur’s Rapid Jab and Forward Air and take the landing or ledge route before Ivysaur can reset.
The table shows that Ivysaur’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Rapid Jab Finisher can be answered by Ridley’s Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), Up Smash (12f), and OOS Bair (13f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Ridley, Ivysaur’s Rapid Jab and Forward Air are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Ridley OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 7 | -17 |
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| Jab 2 | 5 | -19 |
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| Rapid Jab | 4/7/10… | — | ||
| Rapid Jab Finisher | 4 | -32 |
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| Forward Tilt | 10/12/14/16/18/20/22 | -20 |
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| Up Tilt | 7 | -18 |
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| Down Tilt | 4 | -21 |
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| Dash Attack | 4 | -27 |
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| Forward Smash | 15 | -33 |
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| Up Smash | 26 | -21 |
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| Down Smash | 13 | -26/-25/-24 |
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| Neutral Air | 7/10/13/16/19/22/25/28 | -14/-14 |
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| Forward Air | 14 | -8 |
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| Back Air | 7/13 | -5/-4 |
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| Up Air | 12 | -6 |
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| Down Air | 11 | -9 |
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| Neutral B | 7 | -34 |
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| Side B | 24 | -14 |
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| Up B | 15 | -22/-20 |
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| Down B | — | — | ||
| Grab | 13 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 13 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 13 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Ridley should not play directly into Ivysaur’s Rapid Jab and Forward Air; wait for Ivysaur’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Rapid Jab Finisher and answer with Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), Up Smash (12f), and OOS Bair (13f).
- After Ridley blocks Ivysaur’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Rapid Jab Finisher, pick the reachable option from Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), Up Smash (12f), and OOS Bair (13f) immediately.
- Ridley should not mash after Ivysaur’s Rapid Jab and Forward Air; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- Ridley should finish stocks by breaking Ivysaur’s landing and recovery routes so Rapid Jab and Forward Air does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Ivysaur start the exchange on Rapid Jab and Forward Air terms and giving Ridley’s stage control away for free.
- Having Ridley block Ivysaur’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Rapid Jab Finisher but never answer with Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), Up Smash (12f), and OOS Bair (13f).
- Sending Ridley too deep after Ivysaur’s Rapid Jab and Forward Air and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as Ridley and simplifying Ivysaur’s Rapid Jab and Forward Air-driven advantage sequence.