Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
Simon wants to stop Peach’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt with Up B (6f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), and OOS Dair (16f), then force Peach back outside Neutral Air and Up Air to keep stage control.
In Simon vs Peach, the stable plan is to avoid playing directly into Peach’s Neutral Air and Up Air and take the landing or ledge route before Peach can reset.
The table shows that Peach’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt can be answered by Simon’s Up B (6f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), and OOS Dair (16f), so those overcommitments should be cashed out immediately.
For Simon, Peach’s Neutral Air and Up Air are still hard to hit immediately out of shield, so reading the landing spot or ledge route matters more than forcing an early swing.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Simon OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 2 | -22 |
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| Jab 2 | 2 | -23 |
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| Forward Tilt | 7 | -22/-21 |
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| Up Tilt | 9 | -20/-18 |
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| Down Tilt | 8 | -8 |
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| Dash Attack | 6/17 | -14 |
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| Forward Smash | 15 | -20/-21/-18 |
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| Up Smash | 14 | -20/-19 |
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| Down Smash | 6/10/14/18/22/26/30 | -21 |
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| Neutral Air | 5 | -2/-4 |
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| Forward Air | 16 | -8/-8 |
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| Back Air | 6 | -6/-8 |
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| Up Air | 10/15 | -4/-4 |
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| Down Air | 12/18/24/30 | -6/-5 |
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| Neutral B | 9 (Start of Counter) | — | ||
| Side B (1) | 13 | -13 |
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| Side B (2) | 13 | -13 |
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| Up B | 7/11/16/21/26/31 | — | ||
| Down B | — | — | ||
| Grab | 6 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 9 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 10 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Simon should not play directly into Peach’s Neutral Air and Up Air; wait for Peach’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt and answer with Up B (6f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), and OOS Dair (16f).
- After Simon blocks Peach’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt, pick the reachable option from Up B (6f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), and OOS Dair (16f) immediately.
- Simon should not mash after Peach’s Neutral Air and Up Air; take the landing route, escape route, or ledge route first.
- Simon should finish stocks by breaking Peach’s landing and recovery routes so Neutral Air and Up Air does not get more neutral reps.
Actions to Avoid
- Letting Peach start the exchange on Neutral Air and Up Air terms and giving Simon’s stage control away for free.
- Having Simon block Peach’s Jab 1, Jab 2, and Forward Tilt but never answer with Up B (6f), Grab (10f), OOS Nair (11f), and OOS Dair (16f).
- Sending Simon too deep after Peach’s Neutral Air and Up Air and letting the reset punish the chase back.
- Panicking at the ledge as Simon and simplifying Peach’s Neutral Air and Up Air-driven advantage sequence.