Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
This matchup gets ugly for Rosalina if Charizard is allowed to swing at both bodies in the same close-range scramble, because one strong hit can remove Luma and flatten Rosalina’s pressure all at once. But when Luma stays alive, Charizard’s huge hurtbox and slow aerial movement make him unusually easy to pin in place and touch again on the way down.
Rosalina should keep Luma in front and use Neutral B, Side B, Fair, and Uair to halt Charizard’s grounded burst and flame pressure, forcing him to leave the ground before he wants to. From there, the matchup is less about one massive punish and more about repeatedly retaking the landing and ledge without letting Charizard trade one hit for Luma control.
The frame table shows Jab 1-3, Forward Tilt, Up Tilt, Down Tilt, Dash Attack, every smash attack, Fair, Bair, Dair, Neutral B, and Side B are punishable on shield with Up Smash (8f), OOS Uair (9f), Grab (10f), and OOS Nair (10f). By contrast, Nair and Uair do not stop cleanly enough, and Up B or Down B are better handled by taking the next landing or ledge spot instead of forcing the first punish.
Kills are more repeatable from continued landing traps into Up Smash, Luma-backed Uair, and ledge Bair than from center-stage slugging. Flare Blitz is not the place to overcommit first, because Rosalina gains more by punishing the stop cleanly than by creating her own accident trying to hard-call it out.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Rosalina and Luma OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 4 | -14 |
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| Jab 2 | 5 | -16 |
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| Jab 3 | 7 | -20 |
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| Forward Tilt | 12 | -18/-15 |
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| Up Tilt | 9 | -16 |
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| Down Tilt | 9 | -11 |
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| Dash Attack | 10 | -12 |
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| Forward Smash | 22 | -36/-37 |
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| Up Smash | 6/14 | -24 |
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| Down Smash | 14 | -35 |
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| Neutral Air | 8 | -6/-5 |
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| Forward Air | 8 | -14/-14 |
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| Back Air | 14 | -16/-15/-14 |
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| Up Air | 12 | -8 |
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| Down Air | 18 | -16/-17 |
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| Neutral B | 19/26/33/40 | -24 |
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| Side B | 23 | -52/-66 |
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| Up B | 9… | — | ||
| Down B | — | — | ||
| Grab | 8 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 11 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 12 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Keep Luma in front with Neutral B, Side B, Fair, and Uair so Charizard has to jump or swing from farther out before getting in.
- After blocking Jab 1-3, Forward Tilt, Up Tilt, Down Tilt, Dash Attack, any smash attack, Fair, Bair, Dair, Neutral B, or Side B, take the listed punish with Up Smash (8f), OOS Uair (9f), Grab (10f), or OOS Nair (10f).
- Do not force immediate shield punishes on Nair, Uair, Up B, or Down B. Take the landing and ledge route instead and hit the second beat.
- Build stocks through repeated landing traps into Up Smash or Uair, plus ledge Bair, instead of brawling at Charizard’s preferred close range.
- Treat Flare Blitz as a guaranteed stop punish, not a place to gamble first and lose formation.
Actions to Avoid
- Staying close enough for Charizard to hit Rosalina and Luma together and turning one exchange into a lost formation.
- Autopiloting out-of-shield punishment on Nair, Uair, Up B, or Down B when the move has not really stopped.
- Overcommitting early against Flare Blitz and creating a self-inflicted scramble instead of taking the easier punish afterward.
- Rushing for early kills and abandoning the safer landing-trap and ledge-trap cycle.