Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
This matchup is decided by whether Wii Fit Trainer gets to slow the game down with Sun Salutation, Header, and Deep Breathing, or whether Ryu keeps forcing interaction until he reaches the close range where his damage is far better.
Wii Fit Trainer’s awkward aerial angles and setup-based zoning can make direct jump-ins very unreliable, and once Deep Breathing is active, even small mistakes become much more expensive. But Wii Fit Trainer is still not especially sturdy in prolonged close-range exchanges. Ryu should not rush from far away. Use Hadoken to eat up setup time, walk and shield forward patiently, and only commit once down tilt, nair, or grab range is actually there.
The frame table shows that Jab 1-3, Forward Tilt, Up Tilt, Down Tilt, Dash Attack, every smash attack, Neutral B, and Side B all lose to Up B (6f), OOS Nair (7f), Up Smash (9f), or Grab (10f). Ground pokes, dash attack, Header, and deeper Sun Salutation pressure need to be punished consistently so Wii Fit Trainer cannot fake close-range stability.
By contrast, shallow Neutral Air, Forward Air, and Up Air are not stable punish windows. Swinging immediately there often feeds back into bair or landing traps. When the punish is not real, Ryu should keep the next space contested with Hadoken, anti-air up tilt, and forward walking pressure instead of forcing a scramble.
For kills, Shoryuken is still a major threat, but the stock often becomes cleaner once Wii Fit Trainer is cornered and denied room for Deep Breathing. Bair, anti-air up tilt, up smash, and another Hadoken trap at ledge are usually more repeatable than chasing too far offstage.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Ryu OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 4 | -18 |
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| Jab 2 | 3 | -23 |
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| Jab 3 | 5 | -30 |
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| Forward Tilt | 6 | -16 |
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| Up Tilt | 5 | -14 |
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| Down Tilt | 9 | -17 |
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| Dash Attack | 6 | -20 |
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| Forward Smash | 16 | -30 |
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| Up Smash | 11 | -33/-31 |
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| Down Smash | 18 | -25 |
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| Neutral Air | 9/12 | -5/-4 |
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| Forward Air | 9 | -2/-4/-3/-4 |
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| Back Air | 5 | -7/-8/-9 |
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| Up Air | 6 | -5 |
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| Down Air | 15 | -7 |
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| Neutral B | 4(+17) | -26 to -16 |
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| Side B | 15—31 | -11/-13 |
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| Up B | 6/23/40 | ** | ||
| Down B | 39 | — | ||
| Grab | 6 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 9 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 10 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Use Hadoken as space-taking cover, not just chip, and keep Sun Salutation, Header, and Deep Breathing from being set up freely.
- Punish Jab 1-3, Forward Tilt, Up Tilt, Down Tilt, Dash Attack, every smash attack, Neutral B, and Side B with Up B (6f), OOS Nair (7f), Up Smash (9f), or Grab (10f) whenever they touch shield.
- Do not force immediate retaliation on shallow Neutral Air, Forward Air, or Up Air; re-contest the next landing or retreat route with Hadoken, anti-air up tilt, and forward movement instead.
- Once you reach close range, use down tilt, nair, and grab to keep stage control and deny Wii Fit Trainer the time needed to reset zoning.
- Finish stocks by cornering first: ledge bair, anti-air up tilt, up smash, and Shoryuken are more reliable than overchasing offstage.
Actions to Avoid
- Do not answer Sun Salutation or Header with repeated high jump-ins into Wii Fit Trainer’s anti-air angles.
- Do not panic because of Deep Breathing pressure and lunge in from too far away.
- Do not mash after shallow aerial pressure and hand the turn back to Wii Fit Trainer’s bair or landing traps.
- Do not overchase offstage and give Wii Fit Trainer room to reset position and buffs.