Hero vs Dark Pit

Dark Pit Matchup (Hero)

Hero vs Dark Pit

Hero vs Dark Pit is about refusing to get floated by arrows and aerial pressure first, then converting grounded punishes and MP discipline into ledge control and edgeguard kills.

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Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)

This matchup is decided by whether Hero can stop Dark Pit from floating over midrange with arrows and fair, nair, and bair pressure before the game turns into repeated landing traps and edgeguards. Dark Pit has strong recovery and stable air repositioning, so if Hero spends too much time on Command Selection or charge in midrange, Dark Pit can start the juggle cycle first.
But Dark Pit’s grounded commitments are clearly punishable. Jab 1, Jab 2, Jab 3, Forward Tilt, Up Tilt, Down Tilt, Dash Attack, all smashes, Neutral B, and Side B lose to Up B (3f), OOS Uair (9f), Grab (10f), or OOS Nair (11f), so Hero should use shield and sword tip to bait grounded actions, preserve MP, and push advantage toward the ledge.
At the same time, Back Air is barely punishable, and Forward Air and Down Air only lead into narrower answers, so Hero should not force a shield punish every time Dark Pit lands on block. It is more stable to shift the landing spot with movement, then cover the second landing with sword tip, Frizz pressure, or Up Smash once Dark Pit is forced to stop.
The win condition is not to stay in a long projectile exchange in center, but to get Dark Pit to the ledge first through clean punishes and spacing, then repeatedly deny the high recovery with Fair, Bair, Up Smash, Zapple pressure, and Up B coverage until the stock finally breaks.

Full Move Frame Quick Reference

Opponent MoveStartupOn ShieldHero OOS Candidate MovesBarely Missed Moves
Jab 14-18
  • Up B (3f)
  • OOS Uair (9f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (13f)
  • OOS Fair (17f)
  • OOS Dair (+1)
  • OOS Bair (+3)
Jab 25-21
  • Up B (3f)
  • OOS Uair (9f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (13f)
  • OOS Fair (17f)
  • OOS Dair (19f)
  • OOS Bair (21f)
Jab 33-23
  • Up B (3f)
  • OOS Uair (9f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (13f)
  • OOS Fair (17f)
  • OOS Dair (19f)
  • OOS Bair (21f)
Rapid Jab6/8/10…
Rapid Jab Finisher4-40
  • Up B (3f)
  • OOS Uair (9f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (13f)
  • OOS Fair (17f)
  • OOS Dair (19f)
  • OOS Bair (21f)
Forward Tilt10-22/-19
  • Up B (3f)
  • OOS Uair (9f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (13f)
  • OOS Fair (17f)
  • OOS Dair (19f)
  • OOS Bair (+2)
Up Tilt6/15-23/-13
  • Up B (3f)
  • OOS Uair (9f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (13f)
Down Tilt6-13
  • Up B (3f)
  • OOS Uair (9f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (13f)
Dash Attack7-17
  • Up B (3f)
  • OOS Uair (9f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (13f)
  • OOS Fair (17f)
  • OOS Dair (+2)
Forward Smash10/21-26
  • Up B (3f)
  • OOS Uair (9f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (13f)
  • OOS Fair (17f)
  • OOS Dair (19f)
  • OOS Bair (21f)
Up Smash6/7/10/18-27
  • Up B (3f)
  • OOS Uair (9f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (13f)
  • OOS Fair (17f)
  • OOS Dair (19f)
  • OOS Bair (21f)
Down Smash5/18-27/-28/-14/-15
  • Up B (3f)
  • OOS Uair (9f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (13f)
  • OOS Fair (+3)
Neutral Air4/7/10/13/16/19/22/25-12/-11
  • Up B (3f)
  • OOS Uair (9f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (+2)
Forward Air11/14/18-10/-9
  • Up B (3f)
  • OOS Uair (9f)
  • Grab (+1)
  • OOS Nair (+2)
Back Air10-4/-3
  • Up B (3f)
Up Air10/13/16/19/22-12/-11
  • Up B (3f)
  • OOS Uair (9f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (+2)
Down Air10-8
  • Up B (3f)
  • OOS Uair (+1)
  • Grab (+2)
  • OOS Nair (+3)
Neutral B16—76-21 to -15
  • Up B (3f)
  • OOS Uair (9f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (13f)
  • OOS Fair (+2)
Side B (1)18-36
  • Up B (3f)
  • OOS Uair (9f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (13f)
  • OOS Fair (17f)
  • OOS Dair (19f)
  • OOS Bair (21f)
Side B (2)21-40
  • Up B (3f)
  • OOS Uair (9f)
  • Grab (10f)
  • OOS Nair (11f)
  • Up Smash (13f)
  • OOS Fair (17f)
  • OOS Dair (19f)
  • OOS Bair (21f)
Up B
Down B7 (Start of Reflect)
Grab6
Dash Grab9
Pivot Grab10

Win Condition Checklist

  • Do not open Command Selection recklessly into arrows and aerial pressure. Use shield and sword tip first, bait grounded choices, and keep MP for the punish window.
  • After blocking Jab 1, Jab 2, Jab 3, Forward Tilt, Up Tilt, Down Tilt, Dash Attack, any smash attack, Neutral B, or Side B, answer immediately with Up B (3f), OOS Uair (9f), Grab (10f), or OOS Nair (11f) and push toward the ledge.
  • After shielding Forward Air, Back Air, or Down Air, do not always swing in place. Drift back or walk to alter the landing point, then take the second landing with sword tip, Frizz pressure, or Up Smash.
  • Respect Dark Pit’s reflect timing and avoid linear projectile rhythms. Mix shield and normals first, then spend MP on Zapple pressure or Command Selection only when the reflect threat has been checked.
  • At ledge, rotate Fair, Bair, Up Smash, Zapple pressure, and Up B coverage so Dark Pit has to guess between high recovery and standard ledge options.

Actions to Avoid

  • Spending too much time on Command Selection or charge in midrange and getting floated first by arrows and aerials.
  • Swinging after every blocked Back Air or Forward Air and handing Dark Pit another landing reset.
  • Ignoring the reflect and donating both MP and stage position to predictable Frizz or Zapple pressure.
  • Chasing too deep offstage every time and letting Dark Pit’s multiple drift options waste your edgeguard window.
  • Forcing center-stage kill reads too early and feeding Dark Pit’s aerial starter into another landing-trap loop.

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