Matchup Summary (Win Condition and Game Plan)
If Ike starts chasing Sonic’s run speed and spin movement directly, every heavy whiff turns into lost time and lost stage, but Sonic is also light and short-ranged, so once he is forced into Ike’s sword he can die much earlier than the neutral suggests.
That makes this matchup less about dashing after Sonic and more about holding center with preemptive nair, bair, and dtilt so that Sonic has to enter the blade line with an aerial, Homing Attack, or spin commitment.
The table shows that Jab 1-3, ftilt, utilt, dtilt, dash attack, every smash attack, fair, bair, Neutral B, and Down B are all punishable by grab (10f), OOS bair (10f), and OOS nair (13f), while nair, uair, Up B, and especially Side B are not immediate punish windows. After you block spin pressure, do not mash. Reset your feet, then take the landing or the re-acceleration angle as the second beat.
Kills are more stable when Ike seals off the space between center and ledge with nair, bair, uair, and up smash instead of chasing far offstage. Show Eruption at ledge often enough to narrow the getup timing and cash out Sonic’s light weight without giving him a long reset.
Full Move Frame Quick Reference
| Opponent Move | Startup | On Shield | Ike OOS Candidate Moves | Barely Missed Moves |
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| Jab 1 | 3 | -13 |
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| Jab 2 | 2 | -16 |
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| Jab 3 | 4 | -26 |
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| Forward Tilt | 6/8 | -20 |
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| Up Tilt | 6(7)/13 | -20 |
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| Down Tilt | 6 | -15 |
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| Dash Attack | 5 | -38 |
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| Forward Smash | 18 | -19 |
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| Up Smash | 14… | -29 |
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| Down Smash | 12 | -34 |
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| Neutral Air | 6 | -5/-6/-7 |
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| Forward Air | 5/7/9/11/13/15 | -14/-14 |
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| Back Air | 13 | -10/-11 |
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| Up Air | 5/14 | -11/-9 |
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| Down Air | 17 | -17/-18 |
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| Neutral B | 17—82 | -22 to -16 |
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| Side B | 17 | +6 (hop)+8 (grounded, no charge)+11 (grounded, full charge)+11 (aerial, any) |
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| Up B | 4 | -7 |
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| Down B | 15/17/19/21 | -33 |
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| Grab | 7 | — | ||
| Dash Grab | 10 | — | ||
| Pivot Grab | 11 | — |
Win Condition Checklist
- Spend less time chasing and more time holding center with nair, bair, and dtilt so Sonic is forced to enter through an aerial or spin route you are already covering.
- When you block Jab 1, Jab 2, Jab 3, ftilt, utilt, dtilt, dash attack, any smash attack, fair, bair, Neutral B, or Down B, answer cleanly with grab (10f), OOS bair (10f), or OOS nair (13f) and push the punish toward the ledge.
- Do not swing immediately after Side B or the safer nair, uair, and Up B situations. Re-center first, then catch the jump follow-up, landing, or turn-back with fair, uair, or dtilt as the second layer.
- Once Sonic is above you, avoid drifting too far horizontally. Split the landing trap with uair, up smash, and bair so Sonic’s light weight becomes a real threat both above you and near the ledge.
- At the ledge, show Eruption to delay normal getup and waiting, then cover roll and jump with fair, bair, or up smash so Sonic does not get a free reset to center.
Actions to Avoid
- Chasing Sonic all the way to the corner and giving away center stage and the clock just to swing at movement feints and spin threats.
- Trying to punish Side B on shield every time even though Sonic is still advantaged there.
- Throwing out slow fairs or ftilts repeatedly on the same horizontal line and letting Sonic farm whiff punishes off the run speed gap.
- Overcommitting horizontally during landing traps and letting Sonic slip out with air drift or Up B to fully reset neutral.
- Hunting too deep offstage for one hit and making Ike’s more linear recovery easier to read than Sonic’s.